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what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators etc.

Postby testdriver » Wed 12.10.2016, 15:06

Hi everyone

Can you please help me identifying this car?

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It was first registred in March 1993.

Is it a U.S. car because of the longer front and the side indicators? Can the number plate mounting converted for a long number plate?

Thanks! Daniel
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby Giniw » Wed 12.10.2016, 15:30

Hello,
Yes it is a FED (US) SE car.
One can tell from :
- the longer bumper,
- the SE 16" wheels
- the blinkers on the side
- the rear wing mounting
- the suspension settings (but you need a pair of good eyes)

I think you can swap the plate mounting for a European one, but I am not sure. I would be very surprised if it was not the case.
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby testdriver » Wed 12.10.2016, 15:40

Giniw wrote:Hello,
Yes it is a FED (US) SE car.
One can tell from :
- the longer bumper,
- the SE 16" wheels
- the blinkers on the side
- the rear wing mounting
- the suspension settings (but you need a pair of good eyes)

I think you can swap the plate mounting for a European one, but I am not sure. I would be very surprised if it was not the case.


great, thanks! Is the suspension setting softer than the european one? Is it adjustable, or would I need to buy a new supspension set?
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 12.10.2016, 16:25

testdriver wrote:great, thanks! Is the suspension setting softer than the european one? Is it adjustable, or would I need to buy a new supspension set?


16" OZ wheels with Goodyear Eagle tyres were used on US cars so suspension was modified as they were slightly heavier than the 15" with Michelin MXXX2 (which had kevlar in place of steel belts) that were used for UK & Europe.
You've probably got the best suspension already because we can't get lightweight MXX2 tyres any more .. :( and you are running the 16" wheels.

The space between the rear lights is the same so a plinth for a long plate with a light at each end will fit straight in after you remove that plinth.
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby testdriver » Wed 12.10.2016, 16:52

Thanks to you all!

The only thing I don't like about the car is the side blinker red and orange, it looks ''so U.S.''

But if the overall condition is good, why not...

Phil, according your signature, you also own an Eclat, so you should visit thelotusforums.com then go to the Eclat section, and check the picture thread, there are some nice vintage Eclat photos ;-)
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby Rambo » Wed 12.10.2016, 17:59

Don't forget the high brake light under the rear spoiler. And, I believe, the Donald Trump version also had different springs from the UK models that make it look higher at the rear
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby testdriver » Thu 13.10.2016, 06:41

ok, after seeing the car yesterday, I think I don't like the rear end of the federal version :roll:
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby Rambo » Thu 13.10.2016, 09:01

Make that 2

I have never liked those elongated side repeaters and the high tail light. I guess the Fed. rules make them necessary but they look plain ugly :(
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby Nickydee » Thu 13.10.2016, 11:40

Rambo wrote:Don't forget the high brake light under the rear spoiler. And, I believe, the Donald Trump version also had different springs from the UK models that make it look higher at the rear


And also eight arms allegedly. :D
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby lotusflasherman » Thu 13.10.2016, 12:23

I read somewhere that Peter Stevens originally design the boot opening as per the Federal cars and disliked the UK / R.O.W quite a lot. Also designed it for bigger wheels than 15" used and wasn't too pleased that they didn't fill the arches properly.

He's got a really interesting Facebook page -https://www.facebook.com/PeterStevensDesign/photos/a.640412939325043.1073741826.640405969325740/1020969204602746/?type=3&theater
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby esprit888 » Fri 14.10.2016, 01:16

Rambo wrote:Make that 2

I have never liked those elongated side repeaters and the high tail light. I guess the Fed. rules make them necessary but they look plain ugly :(


It was a fed rule but they are not repeaters, they are referred to as side marker lights and come on when the lights (side or main) are turned on (or at least mine didn't flash !)
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby Saltire » Fri 14.10.2016, 07:33

lotusflasherman wrote:I read somewhere that Peter Stevens originally design the boot opening as per the Federal cars and disliked the UK / R.O.W quite a lot. Also designed it for bigger wheels than 15" used and wasn't too pleased that they didn't fill the arches


I think I've also read that - Mark Hughes book?
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby GeoffSmith » Fri 14.10.2016, 09:14

Saltire wrote:
lotusflasherman wrote:I read somewhere that Peter Stevens originally design the boot opening as per the Federal cars and disliked the UK / R.O.W quite a lot. Also designed it for bigger wheels than 15" used and wasn't too pleased that they didn't fill the arches


I think I've also read that - Mark Hughes book?

I think so. Ian Doble confirmed it a few years ago at Brands and that the change from the opera glass headlight design to the later mechanism was a Peter Stevens suggestion.
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Re: what model? US, S2...? has some strange side indicators

Postby Giniw » Fri 14.10.2016, 12:05

Indeed, Peter Stevens has written a few lines about the M100, and yes he confirms that the FED boot is much closer to his design.

part 1: https://www.facebook.com/PeterStevensDe ... 6158677384
part 2: https://www.facebook.com/PeterStevensDe ... 9831269350
part 3: https://www.facebook.com/PeterStevensDe ... 7227376277

Actually he wrote what we call the FED variant is a later one, but ... it's just the FED variant as we all know.
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