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Front door speaker blown

Postby timmo » Mon 04.06.2018, 22:27

Years ago I replaced one of the front door speakers and carefully put the unused new speaker away for future use . Now I need to replace the other one. But can I find the speaker I kept...nope. Can anyone tell me the size (dimensions) I should be looking for as I cant be arsed to dismantle the door card just to measure the bugger.

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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Simon_P » Mon 04.06.2018, 23:57

You've been here long enough that you ought to remember - there can't be many original speakers left just the one in your car and the one in my passenger door.

I seem to recall it being a rather involved for what should be a four screws job. That's why I haven't got around to fitting the second one.

Anyway, four inches... Wiki speakers.

There used to be an article on how to do it.
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Elanlover » Tue 05.06.2018, 03:03

Its relatively easy to put in larger speakers if you want to. I have 6.5" speakers in my doors. Also added a second speaker to the door for a mid range sound boost when travelling with the roof down. Just cut a new piece of plastic to hold the larger speakers and add a new, larger grill to the door. :mrgreen:
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby GeoffSmith » Tue 05.06.2018, 08:53

Simon_P wrote:You've been here long enough that you ought to remember - there can't be many original speakers left just the one in your car and the one in my passenger door.


Make that 3. I've been putting off the 4 screw marathon for 5 years now.
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby lotusflasherman » Tue 05.06.2018, 11:00

timmo wrote:Years ago I replaced one of the front door speakers and carefully put the unused new speaker away for future use . Now I need to replace the other one. But can I find the speaker I kept...nope. Can anyone tell me the size (dimensions) I should be looking for as I cant be arsed to dismantle the door card just to measure the bugger.

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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Simon_P » Wed 06.06.2018, 11:43

GeoffSmith wrote:Make that 3. I've been putting off the 4 screw marathon for 5 years now.


I've found the Door trim instructions in the wiki - Step 14 before you can remove the four screws. Crucially it is missing the detail of removing the weather strip...
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Fredjohn » Wed 06.06.2018, 12:37

Simon_P wrote: Crucially it is missing the detail of removing the weather strip...


Maybe that's because you don't need to!

I have removed the door cards several times to repair the window winding mechanism and to replace both front speakers, and never had to remove any window trim/seal.
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby HJ2 » Wed 06.06.2018, 12:48

Same here... Drilling out the weather strip for replacing a speaker? I don't think so! :bonk:
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby lotusflasherman » Wed 06.06.2018, 13:36

HJ2 wrote:Same here... Drilling out the weather strip for replacing a speaker? I don't think so! :bonk:


:agree: but thought it was just the usual 'project creep' ... I don't even remove the weather strip when replacing the weather strip ... :lol:
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby HJ2 » Wed 06.06.2018, 14:04

or better yet: remove the weather 8)
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby GeoffSmith » Wed 06.06.2018, 14:34

HJ2 wrote:or better yet: remove the weather 8)

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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Simon_P » Wed 06.06.2018, 14:44

Quite right, I did mine at the same time as fixing the window.

That might also explain why I can't find the post with all of the pictures.

lotusflasherman wrote:but thought it was just the usual 'project creep'
No project creep here I start off with the expectation that an engine rebuild will result in a front suspension rebuild which will necessitate a rear suspension rebuild.
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Wed 06.06.2018, 16:52

If you mean the "Specky Window Motor R&R Write-up" it is also in PDF format within the manuals website.
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby burble61 » Thu 06.09.2018, 09:52

So a "remove door card to fix misbehaving window" project expanded in scope on seeing the condition of the (original) speakers....lord alone knows how they produced any sound at all. Yet more creep to check speaker the other side...yep knackered too.

New speakers sourced...but has anyone replaced the flimsy plastic sheet covering the rear of the speakers with anything more robust? Can't help but think it wasn't very effective at keeping moisture out, and having that plastic flapping around doesn't seen very elegant....

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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Tanz » Sun 13.12.2020, 16:16

Just removed the drivers side glass to fix the waistline to glass weather strip and fix the sticking electric window when I discovered the speaker is well knackered.
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Re: Front door speaker blown

Postby Elanlover » Sun 13.12.2020, 17:05

burble61 wrote:So a "remove door card to fix misbehaving window" project expanded in scope on seeing the condition of the (original) speakers....lord alone knows how they produced any sound at all. Yet more creep to check speaker the other side...yep knackered too.

New speakers sourced...but has anyone replaced the flimsy plastic sheet covering the rear of the speakers with anything more robust? Can't help but think it wasn't very effective at keeping moisture out, and having that plastic flapping around doesn't seen very elegant....

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Yes, not in the most sophisticated way but it will probably work out better in the end. I wrapped a Ziplock bag around the back of the speaker and tucked it under the speaker before screwing it to the mounting plate. Could also add a bead of silicone to seal it if you like.
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