Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

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Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby GeoffSmith » Fri 13.03.2020, 16:43

More specifically, the grommet. Does anyone have any information?
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby alan e » Fri 13.03.2020, 18:05

Is it a made of cheese grommet. just asking.
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Saltire » Fri 13.03.2020, 18:59

GeoffSmith wrote:More specifically, the grommet. Does anyone have any information?


Did you mean this valve, Geoff? SJ also list the grommet.
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Fri 13.03.2020, 22:05

For future reference, the Isuzu part number is 8970217370; The GM number is 97021737; Beck Arnley number is 0396506

Rock Auto has them at $1.64

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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby HJ2 » Fri 13.03.2020, 22:43

Geoff And Smith and the curse of the were grommet...
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby GeoffSmith » Sat 14.03.2020, 02:09

Thanks Jo(h)ns. Looks like it might be cheaper to get some from Rockauto rather than SJs. Is anyone organising a group buy? :lol:

H-J: That should probably be wear grommet!

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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Simon_P » Sun 15.03.2020, 00:30

GeoffSmith wrote:Is anyone organising a group buy? :lol:


Don't all rush at once - shortest group buy in history!
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby GeoffSmith » Sun 15.03.2020, 13:58

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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Rambo » Sun 15.03.2020, 15:41

Is there such a thing as a Negative Crankcase Valve (NCV) ?
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Simon_P » Sun 15.03.2020, 15:53

Short answer = No.
PCV is Positive Crankcase Ventilation.
It is a venting system for the crankcase so that the oil vapours go into the inlet. Because we have a turbo the pressure in the inlet can be higher than the crankcase, which would have the opposite effect to that intended and pressurise the crankcase. So there is a Non-return Valve which only opens when the pressure in the crankcase is positive compared to the plenum.
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Rambo » Sun 15.03.2020, 16:31

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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby GeoffSmith » Fri 19.06.2020, 17:31

Firstly a big thank you to Simon for the grommet GB.

Secondly, where is the arse end of my old grommet likely to have ended up? I carefully pulled the PCV out but the back of the grommet is nowhere to be seen. Is it safe where it is for the minute (and may have been there for goodness knows how long) or do I need to take the cam cover off? If it needs to come off, is it gasketted or gunked?
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby lotustonybassplayer » Fri 19.06.2020, 17:47

gasket well should be :roll:
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby dapinky » Fri 19.06.2020, 18:49

Belt and braces....... gasket and gunk!

The good news is that the gasket can often be reused........ the even better news (for me) is that I've got a couple of new ones sitting on my shelf..... but my be persueded to part with one if you find your's is unuseable.

There is a small smear of gunk where the cam seals butt against the gasket - see WSM for details (EC7 p28).

Oh, and the bit of grommet is probably inside the baffle system..... the one which is spot welded or rivetted in place.... but can be drilled out, tapped and setscrewed together again......it's never straightforward is it!
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby GeoffSmith » Fri 19.06.2020, 19:25

So, if it's trapped inside the baffle, it's unlikely to go anywhere untoward.
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby dapinky » Fri 19.06.2020, 20:16

I wouldn't be able to guarantee that....... obviously, there is a way through, otherwise it wouldn't be a baffle, it'd be a barricade!

The only way to know is to remove the baffle plates :(
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Saltire » Fri 19.06.2020, 20:39

GeoffSmith wrote:So, if it's trapped inside the baffle, it's unlikely to go anywhere untoward.


Having inspected my cam cover closely yesterday while I was at the powder coaters with it, I can report that there IS an aperture at one end of the baffle plate which could expel part of a PCV grommet.

And like Pinky says, I’m going to drill the rivets and remove mine, and then either tap and screw it back, or bond it.
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby GeoffSmith » Fri 19.06.2020, 21:08

Thanks for that. I've taken out the bolts but haven't cracked the gasket yet so I may go fishing with some bent wire tomorrow.
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Re: Positive Crankcase Valve (PCV)

Postby Saltire » Fri 19.06.2020, 21:15

Tomorrow I will be off Elan duties and finishing off fitting the dash cam to Pauline's XC40.

I thought access was bad in the Lotus, but . . . who on earth thought it was a good idea to put the Volvo fuse box underneath the front passenger seat? :evil:
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