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by Fredjohn » Mon 24.07.2023, 16:37
Geordie wrote:Fredjohn wrote:
PS if you really want to be different why not fit the AP kit. There are less than a handful of people have them!
Can’t find out much about them ,or where to get them from ?
Try looking at this link, also quoted above:
http://wikilec.com/view/Brake_upgradesOr even here
http://elanm100.com/upgrades/brake-upgrades
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by dapinky » Mon 24.07.2023, 18:30
I may be wrong, but I've never known an AP upgrade to be fitted to the 15" wheels....... but that's not to say it can't be done!
Dave
Just the one now, but this one's mine! - and it will be finished eventually..... - but also temporary custodian of a project until it is finished enough for Angie to drive it
...oh, and a 2006 Freelander destined for the jungles of The Gambia - 4500 miles across roads, desert and tracks - what could possibly go wrong?
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by HJ2 » Mon 24.07.2023, 18:51
Now with that in mind…. Why not upgrade to 16” first!
Lager disks so better feeling in the brake pedal and smoother transition till full lockup.
And a lot more upgrade paths available.
This might not come as a surprise, but I have an OEM S2 set for sale

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by Fredjohn » Mon 24.07.2023, 18:52
dapinky wrote:I may be wrong, but I've never known an AP upgrade to be fitted to the 15" wheels....... but that's not to say it can't be done!
Dave, the BG Developments section of the above link quote 15 and 16'' AP kits.
They still exist!
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by tigerdog » Sat 29.07.2023, 20:05
The original kit as built by Brian F1Lotus called for 6806 forged Dynalite calipers. Wilwood has introduced a new series, Dynapro, that improves on these in several areas, including the availability of versions with dust seals, and a low-profile version. If you're going to go to the trouble of having new hats and brackets made up, you might investigate
https://www.wilwood.com/Calipers/Calipe ... =120-11481. These
almost fit on the original Brian's bracket, but the lugs are about 1mm too tall. When I installed the non-dustseal equivalent on Smaug, I was fortunate enough to have (someone no longer in good standing on LEC) make brackets that fit perfectly. If you're still pursuing the original kit in some way, here is a list of parts I kept from the original Brian kit posts. Ignore the nearly 20 year old prices

Description...Quantity...Actual Cost...Estimated Costs(e)
Aluminum Caliper Brackets and Rotor Hat
Car set $265
Braided S/Steel Hoses - Pair $70
Fronts only
Shipping within USA $15
Shipping to UK $32
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Wilwood Parts
Forged Billet Dynalite Calipers 2@$118 each
Ultralight Rotors 12.19"dia x .81" thk 2$69 each
Brake Pads Car set $70e set
Rotor to Hat Bolts Inch size 5/16" - 24 (UNF) thread x 5/8" long 16 $12e
Caliper to Bracket Bolts Metric M10x1.5 thread x 30mm long 4 $6e (with .06" thick washer)
Bracket to Hub Bolts Metric M12x1.50mm thread x 35mm long 4 $7e
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Qty Part #
2 120-6806 Caliper 117.99 235.98
1 15Q-6824K Pads 49.31 49.31
2 160-5844 Rotors 69.38 138.76
2 230-0150 Bolt kit (8pk) 6.88 13.76 *NOTE (Wilwood has many bolt kits. Mine are 3/4" long & work A-OK. If you want 1/2"-long bolts they will be a different part#)
The 1.5 thread-pitch is a slightly but not super-fine pitch... it is NOT the standard pitch for a 12mm bolt) 12mm x 35mm bolts, of which you will need 4.
(I ended up buying too-long bolts then cutting them down to the correct length. I'm fortunate to have a truly amazing industrial hardware supply store in San Diego, California)
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Wilwood Rotor Alternatives
160-5844 8.8 lbs straight vane .81" width
160-2900 + 160-2901 10.1 lbs RH and LH directional vane .81" width
1) 16 hat to rotor bolts (5/16" x 3/4")
2) four 12mm x 35mm, 1.5 pitch bolts to attach the caliper brackets to the car.
3) four 10mm x 30mm, 1.5 pitch to attach the Wilwood calipers to the brackets.
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by HJ2 » Sun 30.07.2023, 20:07
Here's what I have in my garage. The discs are rusted beyond safe usage, but the rest is in pretty good nick!
I hope this helps and I'll keep you posted if the set will be for sale soon or not.
A 'Brian' set for 16" BBS OEM Wheels:
Hat from the inside:

Hat from the inside:

Hat from the outside

Hat from outside:

Caliper:



Caliper Bracket:

Hose:

Full set:

On the car (not mine!)


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