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New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby RonR » Wed 16.08.2023, 13:27

EDIT: As of mid-2025 all of the chips for MkI and MkII boards have been used up. However I've come up with a new 'Standard' board for the same price, based on the Mk III board:
A 4-image board, with both Open and Closed loop proms, both available in Standard or Mountain tunings. e.g. After installing a board with open loop selected in an Open loop car, a dashboard switch can be used to introduce 'Mountain' tuning (Kilimanjaro or Everest), then at a later date when an O2 sensor and wiring is added the ECU can be opened up and a jumper installed to switch the ECU into closed loop. The dashboard switch will then switch between closed loop standard and closed loop mountain tunings.

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One of my recent projects was to understand a little more about the M100 ECU, and as an offshoot of that I started to look at the "Moates" boards as used by Alan McNicol(ESM) in the Mountain chip upgrades.

I found that the chip used in my Everest board had double the capacity of the original Eprom it replaced. So I wondered if the extra memory could be used - I butchered my Everest board to make the top address line switchable, then programmed a new chip with 2 prom images - a 9929 and a 1499 - Lo and behold I could switch between them on my spare ECU! The Eprom selection is made via a "Jumper" the same as used on PC Motherboards, though it's not beyond the wit of man to extend that to a switch external to the ECU casing.

The next steps were to design a new board with the mods incorporated, including the ability to have only 1 prom image if desired - and to have some prototypes fabricated.
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Meanwhile the original 28-pin DIL chip went obsolete, so I figured the boards I had made wouldn't be a long-term solution. However I did get my hands on a small number of genuine chips before the market was flooded with knock-off copies.

Back to the design software, and a Mark II board was designed to use a 32-pin PLCC chip which was physically different but electrically identical to the original. Needless to say that one also went obsolete soon after, but I managed to find enough to make a small supply of boards.
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There are beta versions of these boards in use by several LEC members, perhaps they could chime in on this thread to give their opinions?

My original idea was to offer the boards with either 2 eprom images, e.g. open loop + closed loop, or a single image, e.g. 9930 for those with marginal MOT emissions.

Several people enquired whether I could burn Everest images onto my boards, but although it was technically feasible I didn't want to tread on any toes, so emailed Alan to ask for his permission...

That permission was recently granted, so I'd like to offer them here alongside the standard prom versions.

Please refer to the Mountain Chips website for technical details, boost figures, etc (Link at top of this page if you're signed in).

Initially I'm offering Mark II boards with:

1 or 2 prom images, in the following versions:

    9929 - Used in later SEs in UK.
    9930 - As 9929 but with better adjust-ability of CO Pot for emissions - released with "Emissions service bulletin 1995/24". N.B. If you're changing from an earlier prom to a 9930 your CO Pot WILL need adjusting using an exhaust gas analyser.
    1499 - Closed Loop, used in all S2s, RoW SEs with Catalysts and USA 49 States SEs - can be used in non-Catalyst UK and RoW SEs but needs an O2 sensor installed to function (and if you're unlucky some extra wiring).
These are available in Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest tunings, using version 4.5 of the mountain chips code. I may later offer version 5 once I've tested it on my boards.

To address the chip supply situation I also have a Mark III board in development which uses a newer chip, usually found on PC motherboards. These are made by multiple companies so hopefully won't go obsolete any time soon. Details to follow once I've tested the prototype in my car, but (spoiler alert) these chips are large enough to hold several prom images.
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Pricing - This was the most difficult part of the whole process, but in the end I decided to honour Alan's prices for boards with Mountain chips code, the last price on Alan's website is £150 for a V4.5 chip and board.
For standard code i.e. no extra boost, the price is £80. Useful if you don't want the extra power of a Mountain chip, but want to go closed loop or reduce emissions on an SE.

Please bear in mind these boards are hand-soldered and each one takes several hours to make, program and test, also this is just a hobby so other things may take priority in my life. In other words there may be some delays in supplying boards!

For those who already have a Mountain chip, I will soon be able to offer upgrades of early prom versions to 9930, from Open loop to Closed loop and Kilimanjaro to Everest by re-programming your existing chip for £36.

If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest.
>>>> EDIT: For those who may not know the "usual LEC manner", just reply to this thread copying the last post that had a list and add your name and choices to the next available slot.


DISCLAIMER: You modify your ECU at your own risk, and as with any increase in power your Engine needs to be in good condition and you need to have adequate brakes (preferably upgraded) to cope with the extra power.


Reminder - For more information on the Mountain chip range, please see the link at the top of this page.
Edit 08/24: Alan's site is down for maintenance at the moment, but the previous version is still available on the Wayback Machine: HERE
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby RonR » Wed 16.08.2023, 13:34

If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest. I'll follow up by PM to each member.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby dapinky » Wed 16.08.2023, 13:56

Before it gets lost in the (expected) deluge of replies from people who want these, I can say that I have been the fortunate owner of a 'Beta Test' version of one of these boards, and it was a simple 'plug and play' to fit it into the ECU.

The only thing to note (and it may already be somewhere in the instructions from the original items, but I didn't read it this time, and it's many years since I fitted a board in my own car) is that in order to get the adapter board in and sitting fully home, it may be necessary to open the box up by releasing 2 screws which hold the 2 halves together and easing the end open enough to get the board it..... once it is pushed home, the case can be done up again.

There is no (physical) need to unplug the wiring to the ECU, but my knowledge of electronics is such that it may "need" to be electrically isolated before messing about.... I just isolated the battery, checked there was no residual voltage anywhere, and opened the box. There is enough slack in the wires to allow you to do all this just by flipping the glovebox down, undoing the 2 x M10 nuts which hold the ECU in place, and easing it out of the bracket.

I have not driven the car very much since fitting it, but Elanscan recognises the PROM as both 1499 Standard and 1499 Everest, and with the O2 sensor fitted it fired up under both settings and idles perfectly, with no EML on the dash.

The car went for an MOT last Friday and the emissions were such that the 'closed loop' system is working fine (0.61% CO, and 74ppm HC).

On the way back it happily boosted to where my own car boosts to, and actually felt a bit quicker than mine does. I didn't have ES plugged in, so can't tell you what the boost was, but the gauge went up as expected (even if it isn't accurate).

So, all in all, I am happy that Rons efforts have borne fruit and there is now another opportunity for people to experience the value of closed loop, and the "added economy" of an Everest (or Kilimanjaro) map :wink:

So - form an orderly queue - I'm sure you'll be served as soon as he can get it done.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Simon_P » Wed 16.08.2023, 14:14

RonR wrote:If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest. I'll follow up by PM to each member.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby chrism » Wed 16.08.2023, 16:24

I've been a beta-tester for both of Ron's ecu upgrade projects.

His first project leap-frogged me from the original 9239 in my '90 SE to a dual 9930/1499 processor so's I could enjoy 'closed loop' benefits. The 9239 chip is located elsewhere in the ecu as a default option. This lowered my fuel consumption from around 25mpg to very late 30s 'around town' and around 50mpg on a long (light-footed) run. MoT emissions are now worry-free. I posted original 9239 and subsequent 1499 MoT emission figures as part of the forum post 'Ignition and fuelling/High CO and MoT fail M100 SE 1991' if you want to see typical figures.

I was also pleased to be a beta tester for this later 1499/Everest dual processor project. It's so easy to install, just follow the 'Mountain Chips' procedure. in fact I left the battery connected (don't take this a a recommendation please...) This latest dual processor does exactly what it says on the Everest tin - boost comes in earlier, goes further up the dial - and the car grows a pair of horns along with a wicked leer.

It was easy to add a micro-switch to one of the switch-blanks (near my disconnected digital clock) and run a pair of leads back to the 'choice/connector pins' in the ecu so's the map can be switched without wrangling the ecu (even' on the move' tho' I haven't seen this recommended either...)

I've posted in the past that I regret coming late to the Mountain chips party. Frustratingly the door was locked and the lights were switched off well before I became an m100 newbie but now Ron's invited me back with his 'Son of Mountain Chips' :D and I can confirm that in my experience both his products are 'quality' (and bring smiles :wink:).
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Geordie » Wed 16.08.2023, 20:40

RonR wrote:If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest. I'll follow up by PM to each member.
1.Geordie I have elan se turbo with 9929 ECU I’ve added o2 censor so being a novice I’d better fit best I can ,and easy to fit
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Geordie » Thu 17.08.2023, 10:28

RonR wrote:If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest. I'll follow up by PM to each member.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Blaster » Fri 18.08.2023, 17:19

If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest. I'll follow up by PM to each member.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby RonR » Sat 19.08.2023, 09:18

Just adding Simon back in.
If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest. I'll follow up by PM to each member.
1.Geordie not sure which is best for me ,need some guidance
2.Blaster 1499 + Everest
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And what a gentleman Alan is for letting them be used!
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Wortho » Sat 19.08.2023, 11:15

1.Geordie not sure which is best for me ,need some guidance
2.Blaster 1499 + Everest
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Tuga2112 » Sat 19.08.2023, 16:14

Ron.
Any difference between the Final release and the beta unit i have tested ?
ill probably be adding a video on "how to " install these just for completeness sake even tho they are a doodle to install.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby dapinky » Sat 19.08.2023, 17:36

Not wanting to interrupt and hi-jack in any way.....

...but possibly a good time to suggest that anyone who is currently running open loop, and looking to go closed loop, it is always worth soaking the blanking plug with whichever releasing fluid is your favourite..... personally, I like PlusGas or GT80 - not WD-40! before you try to undo it.

In fact, I'd be giving it a squirt today, tomorrow and every day for a few days, then try to undo it. If it is stuck, add more fluid for more days until it comes out (fairly) easily. Then clean the threads a bit and put it back until you want to fit the O2 sensor.

Also, start thinking about the sensor you need - I always use Bosch 15701 (currently £28.89) plus postage & VAT.

However, they also list various alternatives starting from £18.76 upwards.

I don't know if the listed ones are all 'plug and play' or if they need the plug wiring in to match your loom - but the Bosch one is a straight fit.

Maybe worthwhile combining postage if a few people need them for this upgrade, or sourcing one from the UK (but not my problem ;-) )
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Tuga2112 » Sat 19.08.2023, 20:16

dapinky wrote:However, they also list various alternatives starting from £18.76 upwards.

i have the 18£ option in the garage. they are a plug and play fitting.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby RonR » Sun 20.08.2023, 15:20

Hi Joao, the code is the same for beta and release versions.
Even those with physically different chips run identical code, and as there were no circuit changes after the Betas you have the same as the latest boards.
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Tuga2112 » Sun 20.08.2023, 21:12

RonR wrote:Hi Joao, the code is the same for beta and release versions.
Even those with physically different chips run identical code, and as there were no circuit changes after the Betas you have the same as the latest boards.

so, only difference is the jumper settings which is not too hard to explain what the jumper does and how it affect the board outcome.

i think i got all the imformation i need to record a video.... now getting the space back in the garage to do it is going to be a little more tricky
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby RonR » Mon 21.08.2023, 11:58

Adding in Roger D - requested by PM.

If you're interested in getting a board, please add your name to the list starting in Post 2 of this thread in the usual LEC manner, and don't forget to say if you require 1 or 2 images, the prom version, and whether Standard, Kilimanjaro or Everest. I'll follow up by PM to each member.

1. Geordie not sure which is best for me ,need some guidance
2. Blaster 1499 + Everest
3. Wortho 1499 + Everest
4. Roger D - TBD by PM
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby HJ2 » Mon 21.08.2023, 14:52

Not interested (currently!)

But how great this is that you offer an option to the community!
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby RonR » Mon 21.08.2023, 15:22

Hey HJ, Does the "currently!" mean you're on the lookout for another M100?
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby Tuga2112 » Mon 21.08.2023, 15:50

RonR wrote:Hey HJ, Does the "currently!" mean you're on the lookout for another M100?

nope. hes just going to engine swap a 4XE1WT into an emira :lol:
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Re: New ECU add-on boards available - Form an orderly queue!

Postby RonR » Fri 25.08.2023, 18:58

First batch of boards awaiting their chips.....
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