Samco silicone coolant hoses, possible group buy.

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Postby Matt RI » Tue 25.10.2005, 22:44

Boo-yah.

If this is shaping up, count me in. Thinking yellow is the way to go.
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Postby Sy V » Wed 26.10.2005, 08:00

John_W wrote:
Sy V wrote:Something's going on here. There's a couple of posts (one of mine and one of Niall's) missing from this thread.
?

Sy,
You been using naughty words, then? Cockpit? Grease nipples? Rubbing compound or powerful strippers?

John :lol:


No John

Just reading the wrong thread... :oops:
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Postby Dico » Wed 26.10.2005, 09:53

No reply yet from Samco. Dont you just love emails :evil:
I will give it till friday, if still no reply i'll get on the good old fashioned phone.

edit- I've just sent an updated email stating that there are now 20 people interested. (i've sent this to the south wales branch(uk) whereas before i'm not entirely sure who received my emails :? )

1 - Dico
2- John_w
3 - Monty
4 - Paul.P
5 - Nige
6 - Sy V
7 - Dave M
8 - Fubar
9 - grahamec
10 - Exbury
11 - chris.t
12 - M100 TWO
13 - Turbocharger
14 - mark
15 - woody
16 - Dodgemister
17 - Rob
18 - PaulN
19 - Matt RI
20 - Mark C
21 - Jimp
22 - Ailwyn
23 - niall
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Postby ailwyn » Wed 26.10.2005, 13:17

Depending on cost I would be interested.

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Postby Dico » Wed 26.10.2005, 13:21

Your on the list Ailwyn.
And seeing as your in south wales you can chase them up if need be :wink:
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Postby Dave M » Wed 26.10.2005, 13:32

For those requesting colored hoses, especially light-colored ones, have you every tried cleaning your stock ones? :roll: :wink: Not the easiest to get to, ya know?

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Postby Dico » Fri 28.10.2005, 12:30

I have just contacted Samco by phone....

Questions i put to them

1 - will you require a set of hoses to duplicate? or can you contact lotus themselves for specs?
2 - Just to try and increase the numbers interested, are we likely to receive a discount with a group buy of 15 plus ? If so any idea of what percentage?
3 - Without seeing the hoses is it possible for you to give a time scale as to how long it would take to complete?
4 - Even though its a 'new' kit can we still have a choice of colours?
5 - Is the stadard blue option cheaper than other colours?
6 - Would it be possible to deal with one person on your side so to avoid any confusion?

Answers

1. I will be sending Montys spare set of hoses hopefully this weekend.
2. 30% discount on a group purchase (i'm assuming this is if we purchase 15 sets or more.)
3. 5 - 6 weeks.
4. yes
5. All hoses will be the same price.
6. sorted.

Sound good to me :D

If anyone else is interested then say so soon, as theres no doubt the final price (after our group buy) will increase by 30%.
Price will be established soon,and theres no point in me guessing.

One other thing, PLEASE watch this thread regularly as at some point either a deposit or full amount will be required. I know Darren had some mega headaches whilst organising the Quaife group buy, and that is one thing i dont want.
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Postby Matt RI » Fri 28.10.2005, 14:35

Dave M wrote:For those requesting colored hoses, especially light-colored ones, have you every tried cleaning your stock ones? :roll: :wink: Not the easiest to get to, ya know?


Very true, Dave...

Perhaps green would be better...
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Postby theelanman » Fri 28.10.2005, 15:18

really like the sound of these but I'm going to wait until the price has been established.......just had a look at their price list......everything is around the £100 until you use the word lotus.....then its up to £250......why????
surely there's not 3 times more pipework....its not twice the diameter.....its not made of titanium and plated in gold is it?...just wonder wether the 30% discount will be on actual costs incured or on one of those figures plucked from thin air.....
I'll reserve my judgemnet until then......
still sounds very tempting though!!!
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Postby Monty » Fri 28.10.2005, 16:33

Gareth,

Been looking at the pipes of pinky 1 today and there`s at least 3 complicated pipes :roll: so there not going to come cheap. will take some pic`s of the pipes were going to have replaced soon.
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Postby Monty » Sat 29.10.2005, 12:34

This is the full set of coolant hoses which are being sent to samco.

Also included are the smaller pipes ie 1 going to the throttle body and the ones going to the turbo etc. We didn`t see the point in not replacing these.

ps These are being sent Monday so any Comments before then would be welcome.
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Postby Monty » Sat 29.10.2005, 12:38

What are u`r opinions on having the large pipe from the intercooler to the bottom of the turbo? We have sent this of to be priced separtely.
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Postby Monty » Sat 29.10.2005, 12:46

We`ve looked at the parts manual for the cooling system and it is showing 2 different set ups to the radiator section, can u please ensure that u`r system is the same as the photo below ie do u have the metal pipe section as in the photo. Pinky II is a 1990 and Dico`s is a 1993 but our systems are identical. Could be that the S2 is the other option mentioned in the manual :idea: :?:
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Postby Houdini » Sat 29.10.2005, 16:20

We've looked at the parts manual for the cooling system and it is showing 2 different set ups to the radiator section, can u please ensure that u'r system is the same as the photo below ie do u have the metal pipe section as in the photo. Pinky II is a 1990 and Dico's is a 1993 but our systems are identical. Could be that the S2 is the other option mentioned in the manual


What about us guys and gals in the us? I know that the radiators are different, is there any chance that the hoses might be as well? Looking at your pictures they appear to be the same, but I just want to make sure.

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Postby Dico » Sat 29.10.2005, 16:29

Turbocharger wrote:
Looking at your pictures they appear to be the same, but I just want to make sure.



Me too. Does Delta have both a fed spec and a uk car to compare?
Does he want that resposibility????
Anyone any better ideas as to be 100% sure?
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Postby M100 TWO » Sat 29.10.2005, 17:21

the fed spec with the rads will be different to the uk spec
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Postby Monty » Sat 29.10.2005, 17:53

M100 TWO wrote:the fed spec with the rads will be different to the uk spec


Thats the American guys out then :roll:

Mine u there was no mention of any differences in the parts manual and there was only one diagram:? :!:
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Postby Dico » Sun 30.10.2005, 11:25

BIG sorry to the chaps with federal elans, Unless you/we can confirm that our set ups are identical it looks like a no go :cry: There are four of you on the list so far and i fear that unless we can make that number up to 15 Samco wont consider making the moulds up for so few (i can always ask though)

CAN SOMEONE ON THE LIST WITH AN S2 PLEASE CONFIRM YOU HAVE THE ALLOY PIPE (in front of the radiator) AS PICTURED ABOVE IN THE BOTTOM PICTURE

M100 TWO you seem a knowledgable chap :wink:
Can you confirm if the S2 and SE have an identical coolant system??
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Postby niall » Sun 30.10.2005, 12:21

Dico,
Please add me to the list on the basis that it is for the purposes of obtaining an estimate and so ultimately subject to price.
Mine is a UK SE 1991 so I can't help with the O/S S2 metal pipe query.
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Postby M100 TWO » Sun 30.10.2005, 12:24

Dico the S2 has no aluminium pipe it is all in rubber from engine to bottom of rad to electric pump to bottom of water header tank this must be better because of no corrosion and two less joints to leak
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