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by **thegolfather** » Thu 21.09.2006, 21:19

Where can I purchase a purpose built induction kit for my Elan in the UK??

by **Enright** » Thu 21.09.2006, 21:55

You'd probably be better off with a K&N drop-in replacement for the original.

It gets very hot under the bonnet, and you want to draw in the coolest air possible cos it's denser and so gives a bigger bang. Also it's more difficult to plumb in a recirculating dump valve with an induction kit, so most go for the venting-to-atmosphere type, which makes the car sound particularly chavved up (and almost as if it has a cold because it goes "aaaaah-choo")!

Having said that, Costas who owns the most powerful Elan on the planet (Where's he been? Haven't seen him for a while) went along the induction kit route, but completely partitioned off a section of his under-bonnet area.

by **mikeydude** » Tue 14.11.2006, 14:17

I have the stock induction setup....the simple question I have that I can never get an answer for is ...."is the K&N induction setup provide anybetter performance?"

I would love to know if anyone can answer this without politician speak!

by **mikeydude** » Tue 14.11.2006, 14:19

Probably daft...but I wondered.... if I took out the stock air filter and drove the car for a mile or so to see if it'ts any better? at least it would show if the stock filter restricts the flow or not!

And before you say it Monty...yes I am probably an idiot!

by **Sy V** » Tue 14.11.2006, 14:40

Mikey

You're using the 'induction' word too much.
Stock system is a round paper filter in a bin-like plastic container (ex Maestro and a few other Leyland vehicles).
The K&N drop-in replacement filter (2360?) will give you a few more BHP. There no political speak.

by **mikeydude** » Tue 14.11.2006, 15:11

Yes I realised there were two approaches....replace the lot or keep the dustbin and change the filter....thanks for telling me there is an improvement, and what the filter is, that's what I wanted to know..I will get one !! as people say...I don't like the idea of taking in hot air from under the bonnet.

can they be bought from a motor factors over the shelf?

Mike

by **Sy V** » Tue 14.11.2006, 15:13

Check that part number first mate...that was quoted purely from memory (and mine's f***ed!)

by **Benmac** » Tue 14.11.2006, 15:23

IIRC that number is right. I was planning to get a K and N to drop into mine so opened the airbox for a looksee and what should I find but a K and N already there. Filthy mind you so a quick clean and away we go. That of course 'saved' me £30 so off to the motor factors I went!

by **Monty** » Tue 14.11.2006, 18:34

mikeydude wrote:Probably daft...but I wondered.... if I took out the stock air filter and drove the car for a mile or so to see if it'ts any better? at least it would show if the stock filter restricts the flow or not!

And before you say it Monty...yes I am probably an idiot!

I was told by someone that he did a rolling road and got 10 hp extra by taking the filter out, but obviuosly not a good idea.

I`ve got a pipercross induction kit fitted don`t think i`ve felt any difference but it does look good :-D

by **drasicjazz** » Thu 14.02.2008, 10:12

any pictures monty??

no problem with hydro lock?

by **Monty** » Thu 14.02.2008, 12:06

drasicjazz wrote:any pictures monty??

no problem with hydro lock?

What do you mean by hydro lock?

by **Sy V** » Thu 14.02.2008, 12:22

Jay

Is that free-standing or is it plumbed in to the pipe from the intercooler (that goes into the base of the OEM filter bin)?

Website · by **theelanman** » Thu 14.02.2008, 12:30

IIRC montys sits on top of everything.....

the std K&N drop in filter gives 2 more BHP....so once youve got you peco and chip I challenge you to notice the difference........

I looked into this k and n but changed my mind after looking into the temp issue........

with this kit you get more air but its warmer...
with the k & n in the std bucket you get a little more but with colder air

so do you want a lot of hot air or a little more cold air...?????

by **drasicjazz** » Thu 14.02.2008, 12:54

gee
impressive monty

thanks a lot for that shot!!

that 's a Viper pipercross and i think and correct me if i'm wrong
but the inlet is connect to the hole of the origional trashbox in the wheel bay

check this out sweet mama.....
http://www.pipercross.net/viper_technical.asp

so monty has a lot of cold air

montey hydro lock is when you get water in you inlet and it goes all the way to the engin

water = no compresion= hydro lock

a problem with cold ram air intakes
but AEM seems to have a a solution

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=20

with a air bypass valve

but all is all
is it all worth it? monty back to you..................

by **Monty** » Thu 14.02.2008, 19:00

Sy V wrote:Jay

Is that free-standing or is it plumbed in to the pipe from the intercooler (that goes into the base of the OEM filter bin)?

Sy,

No it`s just sat on top of the bracket from the old bin, even thou the old feedpipe is still there it doesn`t feed my induction kit I`ve yet to fit the Pipe for the air feed as i need to find a way of getting direct air, which may mean i`ll be fitting some kind of vent to the bumper. So it`s kinda more like an open filter at the mo :roll:

BTW the pipe that feeds the stock plastic bin doesn`t come from the Intercooler, it just goes behinde the wheel arch were it picks up air

by **MattDon** » Fri 15.02.2008, 01:01

hey monty ive got a viper waiting to go on, do you have any tips on how best to do it? ie im having problems finding anything to to from 43mm iirc to 63mm, i also plan to use the old cold air intake but plumb in a 90 degree silicone hose so i can run a recurculating pipe from a dumpvalve into it, oh and what did you do with the plug with the 2 hoses coming off, sorry i forget the names.

by **Paul.P** » Fri 15.02.2008, 08:11

MattDon wrote: ie im having problems finding anything to to from 43mm iirc to 63mm,

Demon-Tweaks sell reducing silicone hoses, but you might have to use 2 together to reduce that much, but shouldn't be a problem.

by **Monty** » Fri 15.02.2008, 12:38

MattDon wrote:hey monty ive got a viper waiting to go on, do you have any tips on how best to do it? ie im having problems finding anything to to from 43mm iirc to 63mm, i also plan to use the old cold air intake but plumb in a 90 degree silicone hose so i can run a recurculating pipe from a dumpvalve into it, oh and what did you do with the plug with the 2 hoses coming off, sorry i forget the names.

Got my samco reducers from demon freaks :lol:

I have the TopEnd pipes on mine and the lower one has two small pipes welded in which is for those two vacuum hoses, so that does away with that plastic part. So you will need to incorperate that plastic section in to your induction kit.

The 1st thing you need to do is remove the bin, held on by 4 bolts but it`s a :censored:

to do. If your plumbing in to the old air intake then you`ll need to disconect it from under the bracket of the plastic bin.

I`ve kept the actual bracket that the old bin was attached to so my induction kit has something to sit on and just used plastic ties to hold it in place :-D

by **Russc** » Fri 15.02.2008, 17:33

Got the same but mine is connected into the pipe leading under the wheelarch.

Sorry can`t say whether it improves peformance as ti was alreayd on there when i bought it.

I`ll be coming to donny so feel free to take a look if you want when i`m there

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