Piper Exhaust Down Pipe

[Denny]

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff[/quote]
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price

[Aoki Magic Pants]

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff[/quote]
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. PCE - Aoki Magic Pants (I've been thinking about getting a Piper PCE to go with my 2.25" Piper exhaust for my S2, so yeah I'm interested)

[surfboardfiller]

Hi, Aoki Magic Pants

If you don't already have a PCE then I think you are better off with an NOC version.

[surfboardfiller]

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. PCE - esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco

Where does the Peco start Nic? Is it at the end of the Pre Cat/Bottle?

[HJ2]

@ least my peco does...

[surfboardfiller]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff[/quote]
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. PCE - Aoki Magic Pants (I've been thinking about getting a Piper PCE to go with my 2.25" Piper exhaust for my S2, so yeah I'm interested)

[ashm]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff[/quote]
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. PCE - Aoki Magic Pants (I've been thinking about getting a Piper PCE to go with my 2.25" Piper exhaust for my S2, so yeah I'm interested)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)

[surfboardfiller]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff

9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. PCE - Aoki Magic Pants (I've been thinking about getting a Piper PCE to go with my 2.25" Piper exhaust for my S2, so yeah I'm interested)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)[/quote]

We are pretty much covered for parts, but thanks for the offer Adam.

[Aoki Magic Pants]

Hi, Aoki Magic Pants

If you don't already have a PCE then I think you are better off with an NOC version.

Ah right, I see. So if I get the NOC version then it'd just be a case of removing my existing S2 pre-cat and connecting it to my Piper exhaust?

[HJ2]

That's the plan!

[whippit]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff[/quote]
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. PCE - Aoki Magic Pants (I've been thinking about getting a Piper PCE to go with my 2.25" Piper exhaust for my S2, so yeah I'm interested)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)
16. NOC - whippit, to suite 2.5 "( have a pce but will bin it for a smooth flow) unless advised otherwise

[surfboardfiller]

I sent Tom my downpipe and pre cat as requested.

I guess he will put it on his gas flow machine and start designing a new down pipe!

[ashm]

This rocks - can't wait.
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[Aoki Magic Pants]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff[/quote]
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. NOC - Aoki Magic Pants (amended from PCE as recommended)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)
16. NOC - whippit, to suite 2.5 "( have a pce but will bin it for a smooth flow) unless advised otherwise

[BFG in the BRG]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff[/quote]
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. NOC - Aoki Magic Pants (amended from PCE as recommended)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)
16. NOC - whippit, to suite 2.5 "( have a pce but will bin it for a smooth flow) unless advised otherwise
17. NOC - BFG in the BRG (looking to do Piper Exhaust too....at some stage - die you existing exhaust die )

[Karl Martin]

Looks like Billy and Steve has led to some inspiration!

Interesting to see this development, as Piper has been asked to make a down pipe in the past, when they were developing their exhausts and PCE, but said it would not be economically viable, so they declined! (The fifth post Piper wrote on this link)

viewtopic.php?f=85&t=13283&hilit=piper+downpipe&start=120

As I stated on the other thread, I have looked into an alternative down pipe for some time, lots of knowledgeable people asked, with lots of different answers, but the advice I would take the most notice of, would be all those people who have actually done work with good results, as opposed to theory.

Don’t we already have this with knox’s design? Billy seems to have done his research and development, beautifully crafted and race proven with Steve in the real world, not to mention rolling road figures which put this upgrade above my efforts with the modified turbo.

And wasn’t he going to offer a production run?

Not that I am not applauding Phill’s efforts and enthusiasm and determination to develop the best, but if Billy was to produce his creation at a reasonable price, I always favour the tried and tested. I would even be willing to pay the extra for a one off, if Steve would let him replicate this from his prototype and see if it will fit my (British) car....the Piper exhausts are universal so it’s a good bet that it should.

As far as profit, I personally understand that a business needs to make money, as opposed to enthusiasts who are in it for the glory, certainly if Piper go ahead, they will be looking to make a profit! The only time I get fed up is when the profits are at a rip off, you know, like about 100% of what we buy in the U.K!

I would certainly add my name to the list, though, if Billy isn’t interested.

[surfboardfiller]

Here are some facts:

It was Rips review of the piper that inspired this and the fact there was no down pipe in their replacement exhaust system, your therad was the main inspiration for my upgrade as it's exactly what I want for my long term project track car. Billys work looks good from the review by Steve, but the need for a new down pipe came from the old thread you linked to and all I can say to that is the time has come to finish the Piper exhaust.

I want a down pipe and asked Piper to make me one. (Just like I got a roll cage built, custom wheels, brakes, seat runners, fueltank, fuel system, in fact not much original on my car, bar the chassis and engine.)

This happened way before Billy was talking about making more and way before this thread started, I don't know if Billy has got a product to sell yet but I am committed to Piper, they know what they are doing and they are here.

There was not much interest before as people didn't know the piper exhaust was going to be so brilliant, now we do and Piper have a lot of customers who bought their exhaust outside LEC who will want the down pipe.

Piper are developing a down pipe to complete their exhaust product for the Lotus Elan Turbo

Piper have a world renowned reputation for quality and performance, they offer a gauruntee and fast turn arround very hard to match by a fabricator

Piper are a manufacturer and their price is lower than the ones quoted by anyone else mentioned on the related threads

Piper are gas flow experts, they built the best performance value for mony exhaust in 20 years of the Elan Turbo

If you want to shop arround feel free to buy where ever you want but this thread is a register of interest for Piper down pipe.

The development is happenin and Its a very positive thing!

[ratman]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff

9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. NOC - Aoki Magic Pants (amended from PCE as recommended)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)
16. NOC - whippit, to suite 2.5 "( have a pce but will bin it for a smooth flow) unless advised otherwise
17. NOC - BFG in the BRG (looking to do Piper Exhaust too....at some stage - die you existing exhaust die )[/quote]
18. Ratman, only if it fits to the original main Cat. I have the original precat empty right now and I want to improve the quality of the flow

[surfboardfiller]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. NOC - Aoki Magic Pants (amended from PCE as recommended)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)
16. NOC - whippit, to suite 2.5 "( have a pce but will bin it for a smooth flow) unless advised otherwise
17. NOC - BFG in the BRG (looking to do Piper Exhaust too....at some stage - die you existing exhaust die )[/quote]
18. Ratman, only if it fits to the original main Cat. I have the original precat empty right now and I want to improve the quality of the flow


Yes this will fit your S2 CAT

[calli]

Please leave keep this post whole when quoting to keep the explanation, thanks.
To guage an interest in a UK/Euro Down pipe, please put your name on the list by copying the latest list and paste into your reply, adding your name in the useual format.

Piper are looking at a making a performance down pipe for Elan SE and S2 Cars.
This will include O2 sensor fitting point (and bung for non sensor cars).
This will fit cars with and without Air Con.

We are looking at 2 possible products:
NOC: To fit cars with NO Cat or eliminator (S2 completely de cat or SE).
PCE: To fit cars already with a piper Pre Cat Eliminator.

1. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
2. NOC - Phil (surfboardfiller)
3. NOC - Steve A, depending on results and price for an SE
4. NOC- esprit888 (LHD FED car)
5. Maybe PCE (but probably NOC!) - Pinky
6. NOC - rip
7. NOC - HJ2 (duh!) (should fit my S2, with aircon and 2,25" Piper / Peco, and include O2 bung)
8. NOC - Cliff
9.NOC - Kenich (maybe I can sort a Piper exhaust along side this to
10. NOC - Avonvilla
11. NOC - DavidEJM (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on price vs return of course
12. NOC - Nicowalker1 Very much price dependant, to fit 2.25" Peco
13. NOC - Denny (looking to do Piper exhaust too) - depending on package price
14. NOC - Aoki Magic Pants (amended from PCE as recommended)
15. NOC - ashm (was actually in the process of talking to a local exhaust shop about this myself - you can borrow my spare manifold/precat housing if Piper need one for dimensions!)
16. NOC - whippit, to suite 2.5 "( have a pce but will bin it for a smooth flow) unless advised otherwise
17. NOC - BFG in the BRG (looking to do Piper Exhaust too....at some stage - die you existing exhaust die )[/quote]
18. Ratman, only if it fits to the original main Cat. I have the original precat empty right now and I want to improve the quality of the flow
19. NOC - Calli (will be going 2.25 Piper, any chance a good price for both?)