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Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Fri 21.11.2014, 15:14

I wonder if anyone could help me with a temporary fix? I have ordered the full Samco kit but it is going to be 4-6 weeks before it arrives which means the Elan is out of action until then.

Would anyone happen to have the TB 1829 (Samco number I think) equivalent or know of where I could get one quickly?



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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby epipete » Fri 21.11.2014, 15:29

Got a picture, or can you describe from where to where?
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Fri 21.11.2014, 17:16

It is just to the right side of the engine and looks like a y shaped hose. The hole is right in the middle of the y and produces a rather impressive jet once you get up to temperature.

I am going extract the offending article this weekend and post up a picture.

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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby epipete » Fri 21.11.2014, 17:25

I can't help with that one I'm afraid, but a bit of judicious effort with a Stanley knife, some copper pipe and some hose clips might see you through!
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Fri 21.11.2014, 17:55

No worries, Thanks anyway.
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby Fredjohn » Fri 21.11.2014, 18:10

Following picture is from parts manual

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Is it Item 1? In which case it is Lotus Part no: C100K0026F for the turbo model. Available from SJ Sports Cars for a mere £86.73 +VAT+carriage. :lol:

Or item 2 B100K0029F for n/a same source £6.63 plus plus

Or you can do as Pete suggests, buy a bit of copper pipe and some jubilee clips.
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Fri 21.11.2014, 18:18

I think it is item 2 but does this fit the S2 turbo?
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby Fredjohn » Fri 21.11.2014, 18:29

Item 1 is for the turbo model..SE or S2
Item 2 is for the N/A (non-turbo) only

Would think therefore it is probably item 1 that has failed
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Fri 21.11.2014, 18:48

It would be.

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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby epipete » Fri 21.11.2014, 18:50

magicman wrote:It would be.

Thanks for the help.


Darn, copper pipe methinks!
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby dapinky » Fri 21.11.2014, 20:17

There's obviously a glut of these things going wrong at the moment - see this thread from Joao....

I think that during all of the discussion there, that it is the short bit that you need (or that is what I've seen on all SE's, but can't comment on the S2) - that was what Joao needed.

It is a reasonable price from SJs. but if it's only for a short time and you want to risk a S/H one, I can send you the one I dug out for Joao (he went for a new one).

AFAIK it is in good nick (wasn't leaking when i swapped it for the Samcos).

If, for any reason yours (being an S2) is the longer version, then I can throw the other pipe and connector to make up the longer bit into the same parcel for you.

Unfortunately, I can't help with the heater valve 'cos he did have my spare one off me!!!!
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Fri 21.11.2014, 21:39

Sounds great and many thanks. I'll check which one it is and let you know.

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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby DeanG » Fri 21.11.2014, 22:50

Does anyone have contact information to order a Samco Federal hose set?
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby JohnB » Fri 21.11.2014, 23:54

If it looks like item 2 for the turbo, I bought one recently direct from Lotus, B1OOK0026F about £10.
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby Brit-Car-Nut » Sat 22.11.2014, 04:03

DeanG wrote:Does anyone have contact information to order a Samco Federal hose set?


Call or email James at Amber Performance and tell him you are an LEC member:

011 441 582 664735 is their normal phone number that doesn't get surcharged by US phone companies (free call using Vonage)

james@amber-performance.co.uk

The FED kit NOW has ALL of the hoses. You will need to decide what color you want and if you want to buy their stainless jubilee clips (hose clamps).
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby Tuga2112 » Sun 23.11.2014, 00:11

dapinky wrote:There's obviously a glut of these things going wrong at the moment - see this thread from Joao....

I think that during all of the discussion there, that it is the short bit that you need (or that is what I've seen on all SE's, but can't comment on the S2) - that was what Joao needed.

It is a reasonable price from SJs. but if it's only for a short time and you want to risk a S/H one, I can send you the one I dug out for Joao (he went for a new one).

AFAIK it is in good nick (wasn't leaking when i swapped it for the Samcos).

If, for any reason yours (being an S2) is the longer version, then I can throw the other pipe and connector to make up the longer bit into the same parcel for you.

Unfortunately, I can't help with the heater valve 'cos he did have my spare one off me!!!!


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im assuming you own your elan for a relative short period like me. (just because you joined the forum recently)
if the hose your refering to is the same, maybe you should also confirm the radiator fans are working, after all, the failed radiator was the cause of my hose to give in initially.
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Sun 23.11.2014, 14:32

It is definitely item 1 in the diagram.

The radiator and fans were replaced By Gazza not too long ago and were working back in June when in at Essex Autosport, but I will check once the pipe is replaced.
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby epipete » Sun 23.11.2014, 15:08

Fredjohn wrote:Following picture is from parts manual

Hose parts.jpg



Is it Item 1? In which case it is Lotus Part no: C100K0026F for the turbo model. Available from SJ Sports Cars for a mere £86.73 +VAT+carriage. :lol:

Or item 2 B100K0029F for n/a same source £6.63 plus plus

Or you can do as Pete suggests, buy a bit of copper pipe and some jubilee clips.


I promise you that I am not a shareholder or representative of any plumbing suppliers :roll: when I suggest that as a temporary fix might you not buy item two @ £6.63, a piece of copper pipe and two jubilee clips ....... :bananasex:
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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby magicman » Tue 25.11.2014, 12:04

Thanks for all the help. I have ordered the single pipe from Paul Matty, as I guess if the 1st one lasted 20 years then the next should too.

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Re: Coolant hose help

Postby Tuga2112 » Wed 26.11.2014, 22:55

magicman wrote:Thanks for all the help. I have ordered the single pipe from Paul Matty, as I guess if the 1st one lasted 20 years then the next should too.

Cheers

dont be disappointed if the heater valve is rusted so much that you will need a replacement one like i did, you may be lucky and find the one currently fitted is made of plastic (like the one dave sent me) therefore not rusted.

good luck in getting your car back on the road asap. :)
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