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by GeoffSmith » Sat 25.11.2006, 15:34
surfer - Phil wrote:geoffsmith wrote:Some people even do it without disconnecting the battery and removing the ECU!

Surely all you need to do is remove the fuse? Save a bit of bother?
I don't even do that Phil. As you would expect and as far as I can tell, there is no power on the MEMCAL with the ignition off, so I change mine in-situ with the ignition off.
Usual cop out clauses apply - DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME CHILDREN!
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by surfboardfiller » Sat 25.11.2006, 15:50
That's encouraging, I hate the battery compartment, I am sure strange things lurk in there!

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by Monty » Sat 25.11.2006, 19:04
geoffsmith wrote:surfer - Phil wrote:geoffsmith wrote:Some people even do it without disconnecting the battery and removing the ECU!

Surely all you need to do is remove the fuse? Save a bit of bother?
I don't even do that Phil. As you would expect and as far as I can tell, there is no power on the MEMCAL with the ignition off, so I change mine in-situ with the ignition off.
Usual cop out clauses apply - DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME CHILDREN!
I`ve removed mine several times and Dico`s whilst testing with no prob`s. Mind u a do remember JimP blowing a fuse in germany whilst fitting the latest chip

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by Dico » Sat 25.11.2006, 19:22
Monty wrote: Mind u a do remember JimP blowing a fuse in germany whilst fitting the latest chip

Thats the 1st thing that came into my head
Probably not worth the risk, especially if your'e several hundred miles from home

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by jimp357 » Sat 25.11.2006, 19:28
Take it from me, Save yourself loads of stress. Disconnect the battery first.
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by surfboardfiller » Sat 25.11.2006, 20:11
jimp357 wrote::cry:
Take it from me, Save yourself loads of stress. Disconnect the battery first.
Surely pulling the fuse out cuts the power (and with ignition off) ensures there is no risk of a surge or short.
Why the hassle of disconnecting the battery and have to deal with the CD player and alarm when re connected?

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by GeoffSmith » Sat 25.11.2006, 21:01
jimp357 wrote::cry:
Take it from me, Save yourself loads of stress. Disconnect the battery first.
Did you do it with the ECU in situ Jim?
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by ailwyn » Mon 27.11.2006, 04:18
Had ESM fit mine in Donny last year, IIRC he just pulled the ECU connectors, fitted the chip, re-fitted connectors - no battery disconnection.
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by ESM » Mon 27.11.2006, 10:43
Do as I say not as I do
I had a spare ECU in the boot at Donington...
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by GeoffSmith » Mon 27.11.2006, 14:12
ESM wrote:Do as I say not as I do


Oh, and he's a damned good runner!
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by surfboardfiller » Tue 28.11.2006, 13:24
ESM wrote:Do as I say not as I do

I had a spare ECU in the boot at Donington...
Any chance you can have a look at my car for suitability for a chip next donny?
My brakes may have arrived by then

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by ESM » Wed 29.11.2006, 16:36
If its an Elan (M100) so as long as its got a turbo its suitable.
The only question is whether you have anything unsuitable fitted already!

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by clemo » Wed 29.11.2006, 17:24
as long as its got a .........
oh bug*er
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by GeoffSmith » Wed 29.11.2006, 17:34
Never mind Clemo. I hear that Alan is going to add to the famous Mountain range in the near future; in addition to the Kilimanjaro and Everest for the SE/S2, he's going to introduce the Bonneville for NA owners.
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by clemo » Wed 29.11.2006, 17:51
your wisdom is wasted on me ...
try a better insult...
wun d@ eye may udstnd txt wkd m8.
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by GeoffSmith » Wed 29.11.2006, 17:52
Bonneville salt flats - flat as a witch's tit!

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by surfboardfiller » Wed 29.11.2006, 20:56
ESM wrote:The only question is whether you have anything unsuitable fitted already!

That is the question, is there anything I should look for on the car? Exhaust type etc?
It's an H Reg SE Turbo, 32,000 miles with a ss exhaust, not sure what type or what else as I have only had it 1 year. I just kept everything running nicely as is without any upgrades.
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by ESM » Wed 29.11.2006, 22:15
If the boost is stock (0.65bar maximum) then it'll be ok. The only question is whether a 9929 or a 9930 is the right chip.
To know for sure you would have to get a garage to connect a diagnostic tool (a Tech-1) which would read-out the PROM id or find someone local to you with an ALDL interface and ElanScan which can do the same thing. If you ask on LEC there's a good chance someone close to you will help. Alternatively, if a 9930 has been fitted the mechanic should have written CO (or similar) on the ECU casing, the Lotus instructions said they should anyway, and I have seen it in the wild. You could have a look and if there's no marker go for a 9929 - its not foolproof like the other way though..
If you do get the wrong chip it won't do any harm to the engine but it might be tricky to pass the MOT emissions test (if you replace a 9930 with a 9929) or the idle might get a bit lumpy (if you replace a 9929 with a 9930). The latter can be fixed by adjusting the CO pot.
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by ailwyn » Thu 30.11.2006, 01:34
Phil,
We can meet up again and I'll hook up my laptop.
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by algirdas » Thu 30.11.2006, 02:40
Dear Geoff:
I think you got it wrong about the naming of the N/A chip. The Bonneville Salt Flats are home to some of the fastest cars ever seen on this planet.
The new N/A chip needs to be called "Death Valley".
Clemo-No offense.
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